Wednesday, August 25, 2010

three identities for female neurodiversity activist?

As regular readers of autism's gadfly know, the neurodiversity movement in general and the autistic self advocacy network in particular are full of dirty tricks such as playing the murder card. The internet, however, gives a dirty trickster the opportunity to play their tricks, using multiple identities and pretending to be other people.

I have just read an interesting post on the midnight in Chicago blog concerning three well known female neurodiversity activists. I believe this post deserves a shout out on autism's gadfly as there is apparently some controversy that these individuals could be an actual holy trinity of one person.

The post describes Meg Evans, a well known neurodiversity activist who is an attorney, married to a man named Brian K. White with two children, lives in Ohio and works in the publishing industry. She is the secretary of ASAN, just below Ari Ne'eman and Scott Robertson in chain of command.
The post also talks about another female neurodiversity activist named Bonnie Ventura who also goes by the moniker Ventura 33 and has been a moderator of Aspies for Freedom and has a fan fiction site where stories are published by various authors and are given a star trek bent. She also has a website named Aspergerian pride. I gave Ms. Ventura consent to publish one of my stories, but more about that later.

By a strange coincidence Bonnie Ventura has a few things in common with Ms. Evans. She also is married and has two children and lives in Ohio, and works in the publishing industry. Like Ms. Evans she was considered to be autistic early in her childhood. Of course coincidences do happen.

The author of the blog post goes on to claim that web pages that Bonnie Ventura hosts have as their registered owner a Meg Evans. More interesting is that Meg Evans' husband, Brian White has a webpage foxfire74.com which has a link about his wife, Meg. On Meg's page, she states you can check out her fanfiction site and then it gives a link that goes directly to Bonnie Ventura's site. It would appear indeed that Meg Evans and Bonnie Ventura are in fact the same person, if not, there is a very strange coincidence.

Many are also familiar with the rumor that the identity of apparently retired neurodiversity blogger "the autistic bitch from hell" is in fact Meg Evans. Allegedly the autistic bitch from hell wrote a post on one of Kim Womble's blogs and inadvertently signed her name Meg Evans, though I have never seen irrefutable documentation for such.

So, it would seem there is a strong possibility that we do in fact have a holy trinity, Meg Evans, Bonnie Ventura, and the "autistic bitch from hell" being the same individual.

The "autistic bitch from hell" has, in the past, made rather controversial statements first alleging that the only thing on Autism Speaks' agenda was finding a prenatal test so that autistic fetuses could be aborted. Also, she once stated that autistics who don't happen to agree with her on certain things should be taken out and shot or strangled to death and turned into cat food.

The reason this blog post interested me so much is that I had some positive experiences with Bonnie Ventura more than two and a half years ago, just before I started this blog. Before I started autism's gadfly I wrote an article which I posted on my previous blog, Jonathan's Journal, urging individuals to reject neurodiversity. Later I modified this piece somewhat and put it as one of 9 articles in the nonfiction section of my website. Someone calling himself "Robert Montgomery" alleged in a comment on Harold Doherty's blog that I was a fraud because I could not have gone to a special education school in the 1960s, as there was no special education until the education for all handicapped act was passed in 1975 and made the strong statement about me that like all "house autistics" I lied about my past. I was able to document my former alma mater had been established in 1948, making him eat his words.

Not long after this I got an email from a Ventura 33 stating that she had grown up in Los Angeles in the 1960s and had problems with elopement in her regular education school and that there was some talk in fact of a special education placement for her and recommending such to her parents, though like probably the majority of NDs, she never attended a special education school. She stated because of this she believed me and I should not pay attention to a "loud mouth" like Robert Montgomery and that I should not judge all persons in the ND movement just by persons like him. She also asked if she could publish my short story "Mr. Twiddle" which she had enjoyed on her web page and sort of modify it into a star trek type genre. I consented.

I probably would not have consented now in light of the evidence that I have seen that Bonnie Ventura may in fact be "the autistic bitch from hell". Are all these three people the same individual. I don't know for sure, but there are some strange coincidences. Of course, as I said before, this was particularly interesting based on the experiences I had with Ventura33 in the past.

37 comments:

Kent A. said...

I'll have to research this myself, but if true, this is very damaging and proves the point I was making on ASANs yahoo board. STOP promoting the self diagnosed. This whole ND thing is full of people who are disability devotees and people with personality disorders. Its common in a lot of disabilities to have these people lingering around.

Ari Ne'eman has a lot to answer for on this. I warned him. He's also got another one on his board as well. He's also had these people get him to do some of their backdoor blacklisting at Autcom.

Socrates said...

So what ya saying? Meg Evans is actually a nice person?

I concur.

Socrates said...

And speaking of multiple identities, the author of the post on that blog is Elyse Bruce who was slinging accusations of child abuse at Zakh Price's mother (anonymously).

JediKnight2 said...

That just comes to show that there are autistic activists who USE Neurodiversity to serve as "fake" role models, particularly for young and lower-functioning autistics.

They may as well become team mascots who get their masks taken off by little kids.

Kent A. said...

Ok, let me try to summarize here.

ASAN and specifically Ari Ne'eman, has passed over diagnosed autistic people in favor of this person who:

1. Doesn't have any form of a diagnosed ASD, never spent a day in special education or was identified as having a disability, but claims to be autistic.

2. Posted several blog entries promoting ASAN as a person unaffiliated with ASAN (astroturfing) while serving on the board of ASAN

3. Created a different identity as a one Bonnie Ventura, allegedly posting pedophilia fantasy writings on the Internet, with developmentally disabled child victims, and this personality was vastly different than the other identiies allegedly used (ie Meg Evans, ABFH and a Bonnie Ventura)

4. Supported the idea on her blog that people with AS who attend support groups are less able and less typical than she was, a person with no diagnosis, kids neurotypical, no connection whatsoever to autism at all.

Ari Ne'eman owes the entire AS community and those parents of LFA children an explanation. He either needs to deny the above is true or confirm it. Silence will speak volumes.

If all this is true, he will need to fire Meg Evans and take steps to verify the diagnosis of his board going forward.

Theft of identity and this type of misrepresentation is really despicable.

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jonathan said...

I wonder how many other neurodiversity activists take on multiple identities and troll the internet and preach the "we don't want no stinkin' cure" rhetoric and use this to bolster the argument that "most autistics don't want to be cured".

Oliver M Canby said...

Wow Jonathan, this has to be the biggest neurodiversity scandal since Amanda Baggs. It must've taken you a lot of time to dig up all that dirt, so kudos to you. They say autistic people can't "think outside the box," but you just did so and defied stereotypes. This is just the latest in a myriad of ND scandals, and it's only a matter of time until their movement comes crashing down.

Kent A. said...

Interesting info can be found on the Wayback Machine. Bonnie?, Meg?, ABFH? ran a webring called Fuh-q Fest that was a gathering place for fiction writers to pair up characters from Star Trek in a story where they have sex with each other. Most of the stories there, including Ventura33's were lesbian/gay in nature with some bi-sexual thrown in. Here is a link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050308162004/www.ventura33.com/msff/index.shtml

If you go back in the wayback machine, you can see the site made no mention of Neurodiversity or autism until 2005. Ventura33 states she learned about the autism civil rights movement from reading bulletin boards on the internet, no doubt from web surfing for Star Trek related links I'm sure.

About this same time that autism and Aspergia began on Ventura33, a similar website by ABFH appeared also promoting Aspergeria. It was the pre-runner to Meg's ABFH blogger site. On that website, she has links and categories, one of which is called Autistic Uncle Toms found here: http://autisticbfh.tripod.com/uncletoms.html

What no one knew at the time is that Meg Evans, aka ABFH, didn't have a diagnosis of an ASD, didn't even have children with an ASD and apparently only learned, if she is Ventura33 about ASD's until slightly before that Uncle Tom category appeared.

So to summarize here, Meg Evans, with no real connection to autism other than through the internet and chat boards like AFF and most likely Wrong Planet, was degrading autistic children and adults on her website and calling them Uncle Toms. This would be like a white person, wanting so much to belong to black culture, that they start calling some black people traders and Uncle Toms for not being black enough. Nice representation there ASAN.

I've just begun looking around. Has ASAN made a statement yet? I won't hold my breath.

lurker said...

This really creeps me out. Even I didn't imagine that there would have been this level of sadism in someone with their outward viewpoint. If this is true, I wonder what kind of ramifications something as serious as this could have for those linked to her, considering her affiliation with ASAN.

jonathan said...

Kent, your link to the wayback seems invalid. I would be interesting in checking it out if a valid link could be produced.

Kent A. said...

Jonathan,

I tried to shorten the link to fit but couldn't. I'll have to email it to you.

In the meantime, take a look at the home page of Ventura33 http://www.ventura33.com/

and Meg Evan's husband's page

http://foxfire74.com/

Notice the similarities? Its striking. Both sites carry the exact same banners at the bottom in the exact same order. Windows7, Apache2.2, extpad and a little banner for internet explorer. What are the chances of this being a coincidence? And, if you use the wayback machine, you'll see its still the same page in 2004. This is damning to me. I feel safe in saying that Meg Evans is Bonnie Ventura, unless of course they somehow met each other before either one of them started posting about autism on the Web.

I would like a link though to the child sex stories. I didn't see a link supplied by the Chicago blog. I have also found another alias called T'Maia for Bonnie/Meg

Foresam said...

Was Ne'eman born in Israel?

jonathan said...

Don't know where he was born.

Kent A. said...

Well, the Chicago blog has refused to give me the links to the child sex stories. They claim its because I could be a minor and they have no way of verifying my age. I've offered to do a video chat and show my driver's license to them if my gray hair isn't sufficient.

I've tried to find these stories but cannot. If these stories cannot be verified and the person making the allegations won't let others verify, then I think we have to ignore them. I think the burden of proof is on the author of that blog. I've verified all the other information save for that most serious of allegations.

Catatab_Tabimount said...

You are acting as if having multiple identities is something unusual. A lot of internet users have more than one name. I have probably at least 5 identities floating around on the internet. I have no reason to be broadcasting all of them. It is not anyone's business unless they are people who are interested and I know they are not trolls.

jonathan said...

Chelsea: Given the fact that Meg Evans is high up in ASAN and Ari Ne'eman, ASAN's president, has been appointed to two different posts in the Obama administration where he can help craft autism policy at taxpayer expense and given the fact she is rumored to have alteregos that state she believes that persons with autism whom she does not happen to agree with should be taken out and shot or turned into cat food and strangled to death is worth publicly reporting on the internet.

This is of concern to me even if it is not of concern to you.

Kent A. said...

I will continue to search for these "stories" allegedly made by Meg Evans. If I find them, I will report them to child protective services in Vandalia, OH and or Montgomery County OH. There is no such thing as "fiction" when it comes to potential child sexual abuse and thoughts and actions of adults.

I have requested through personal email that Ms. Evans deny these allegations, but as of now she hasn't responded which is troubling. I have also requested Ari Ne'eman to investigate but I haven't heard back from him either. If they think this is going to go away, I can promise them it won't. I'll do a "man on the street" journalism in Ohio if I need to. I take child abuse very seriously. Especially on autistic people.

If an adult is writing fantasies of child sexual domination, that's serious. It doesn't matter if its fiction. Research has shown that there is a thin line between fantasies and carrying out those fantasies and writing about them is a step closer in the chain to having actually carried out those fantasies.

The author of the Chicago Blog is on notice too. She has the responsibility to produce those links she is alleging. It is a crime in her country (Canada) to have possession of written child pornography. If she is lying about this, that a serious libel to be making.

I reserve judgment until I see the links. I've searched everywhere based on Ventura33 and I can't find it. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist at this moment and Meg Evans is being libeled. However, if true, then the public has a right to know of a potential danger.

I have no doubt that Ms. Evans is the Ventura33 as she even refers to her fiction on her husband's site and gives a link to the webpage. Searching through the wayback machine you can find various sexual stories on the site that aren't there anymore. But fiction between adults isn't a big deal. But the site does not have pedophile type fiction.

The Chicago Blog has the burden of proof, and thus far has refused to provide evidence, only an allegation which is weak sauce without proof. If it turns out not to be true, I'd support Meg Evans pursuit of libel. That doesn't change the fact that she has been astroturfing and carrying on with dishonest promotion of ASAN or what she said in regards to abusing autistic people with a diagnosis.

Kent A. said...

I will continue to search for these "stories" allegedly made by Meg Evans. If I find them, I will report them to child protective services in Vandalia, OH and or Montgomery County OH. There is no such thing as "fiction" when it comes to potential child sexual abuse and thoughts and actions of adults.

I have requested through personal email that Ms. Evans deny these allegations, but as of now she hasn't responded which is troubling. I have also requested Ari Ne'eman to investigate but I haven't heard back from him either. If they think this is going to go away, I can promise them it won't. I'll do a "man on the street" journalism in Ohio if I need to. I take child abuse very seriously. Especially on autistic people.

If an adult is writing fantasies of child sexual domination, that's serious. It doesn't matter if its fiction. Research has shown that there is a thin line between fantasies and carrying out those fantasies and writing about them is a step closer in the chain to having actually carried out those fantasies.

The author of the Chicago Blog is on notice too. She has the responsibility to produce those links she is alleging. It is a crime in her country (Canada) to have possession of written child pornography. If she is lying about this, that a serious libel to be making.

I reserve judgment until I see the links. I've searched everywhere based on Ventura33 and I can't find it. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist at this moment and Meg Evans is being libeled. However, if true, then the public has a right to know of a potential danger.

I have no doubt that Ms. Evans is the Ventura33 as she even refers to her fiction on her husband's site and gives a link to the webpage. Searching through the wayback machine you can find various sexual stories on the site that aren't there anymore. But fiction between adults isn't a big deal. But the site does not have pedophile type fiction.

The Chicago Blog has the burden of proof, and thus far has refused to provide evidence, only an allegation which is weak sauce without proof. If it turns out not to be true, I'd support Meg Evans pursuit of libel. That doesn't change the fact that she has been astroturfing and carrying on with dishonest promotion of ASAN or what she said in regards to abusing autistic people with a diagnosis.

jonathan said...

Chelsea, BTW, I have always used my real name on the internet, though it could adversely affect me in some way down the line. If people want credibility, they should use their real names in my opinion and not use alteregos or stage names to post controversial opinions. Anonymity is often an act of cowardice.

The only exception in my case was when I used the moniker "NDjustsayno" on wrong planet. I think everyone who had heard of me knew it was me anyhow. I was banned from wrongplanet probably at least partially because I used that screen name there.

Catatab_Tabimount said...

You really should get over the"cat food" thing. Obviously it was not meant to be taken seriously, yet you continue to get offended by it. That shows how mature you are. The fact that she was posting controversial ideas actually did make it a wise choice to stay anonymous. It does not matter how high up she is on ASAN. She had numerous trolls that could even chase her down in person. It is dangerous to post your real name on the internet, and sometimes "bravery is dumb. maybe you should run away more." ice age 2

Kent A. said...

Jonathan,

The author of the Chicago blog writes and implies that there is a child sexualization aspect of some of Ventura33/Meg's writings. The blogger wrote:

No, the ratings associated with Bonnie Ventura’s stories, it was learned, were actually story codes. Upper case letters such as F are adult females 18 or older and M are adult males 18 or older. Lower case letters such as f (for female) or m (for male) are minors between the ages of 13 and 17 and lower case letters such as g (for girl) and b (for boy) are minors 12 years of age and younger. In cases where two same letters are found, the sexual activity is homosexual sexual activity. In other words, Bonnie Ventura writes and hosts stories on her website that involve adults and minors involved in sexual (the x in the code) activity. There’s a specific word for this sort of ‘creative writing.’

My research has turned up something different. Here I believe are the codes this blogger are referring to: http://www.trekiverse.org/FAQs/CodingYourStoryProperly.html

I wrote, and am waiting on moderation of the blog to accept the following which I wrote to them:

If these are the codes you are referring to, then this does not indicate minors. The lower case f and the lower case m refer to the character Q and or other male or female characters not specified in other parts of the code. Hardly indicative of what you are implying here.

http://www.trekiverse.org/FAQs/CodingYourStoryProperly.html

Unless this blogger can produce the source links where these codes at the time of the story did indicate minor female and minor male, this allegation is false. The codes were changed in 2009 but the trekiverse website prevents robot .txt which the wayback machine uses to catalog the internet. I couldn't go back to see what the codes meant beforehand.

I can say that I've researched this pretty thoroughly. The child porn allegations seem to me to be baseless. However, if she has the older Trekiverse codes captured to match the timeline of the Fuh-q Fest stories, then this could disprove what I just wrote. However, Chicago blog has been unresponsive.

Kent A. said...

given the fact she is rumored to have alteregos that state she believes that persons with autism whom she does not happen to agree with should be taken out and shot or turned into cat food and strangled to death is worth publicly reporting on the internet.

You failed to mention that she said this without any form of an ASD diagnosis. Also, neither of her children have an ASD. The fact she is saying these things as a non-autistic person is even more damaging.

Oliver M Canby said...

I have always chosen to use my real name as I feel that truly represents me. I have no problem using pseudonyms, or even multiple pseudonyms, as long as they are not with the intent to deceive people, as this case clearly was. A similar example would be when Stephen King decided to write under the name of Richard Bachman, and it caused a furor when it was revealed that they were the same author. If you're gonna use a pseudonym, either just use one or if you use multiple of them, make no secret of the fact you are the same person. Deceptiveness is just wrong, and could be prosecuted as fraud. I started using my real name in order to be honest and show people who I really was. However, there was a downside as people were able to find out where I lived and sue me. I could've returned to Blogging under a pseudonym, but I felt that would've been deceptive as I'd already made a name for myself as Oliver M Canby. Therefore, I remained honest to who I truly was.

jonathan said...

I found the whole post offensive. Not just the cat food thing. It was offensive that she would use a word like Uncle Tom. Offensive that someone would say that people are trying to prevent others from fighting against descrimination in the workplace are doing so, in order to deliberately get a welfare check. If it was a joke it was in extremely poor taste. If it was meant as something to be taken seriously, then ABFH regardless of whether or not she is Meg Evans is someone who clearly does not understand the problems developmentally disabled people have. Either way the post was disgusting and I won't get over it, because it shows the maturity level of all those in ND yourself included.

JediKnight2 said...

"You are acting as if having multiple identities is something unusual. A lot of internet users have more than one name. I have probably at least 5 identities floating around on the internet. I have no reason to be broadcasting all of them. It is not anyone's business unless they are people who are interested and I know they are not trolls."

Given the fact you stated all of this, that tells me you're much higher functioning than the majority of us. It shows you're smart enough to know that there are autistic people who create separate accounts for dealing with "pen-pals", most of whom are lower functioning than you, yet you would state that there's no such term according to your ND logic for you wouldn't admit that the only reason one would say that is because it's the socially appropriate thing to say in front of disabled people.

I want an autistic friend who's honest and acts like the way he/she normally would with other people- not someone who feels sorry for me and exaggerates himself/herself. Yes, people on the Internet may be phony, but when it comes to the autistic community, as long as you're careful dealing with the person on the other end and find the right point where you could trust him/her (i.e.- after ample evidence of photos of the person, viewing exchanges of information of each other on instant messenger/emails while moving "slowly" (i.e.- start by giving person first name only), occasional phonecalls after getting to know the person online for a while, observe the person's facebook profile and watch to see how he/she interacts with other users, etc.) it shouldn't be a big deal. I also dislike pen-pals
and message boards where all people do is post a question or quick topic where each person on the board gives brief answers; that's boring and childish.

Kent A. said...

"You really should get over the"cat food" thing"

Really? So a person that is not autistic, has no autistic children and otherwise never heard of autism until she started reading AFF and WP in 2005 is perfectly in her right, as a non autistic person to say that autistic people she doesn't like should be shot and turned into cat food? You do know she doesn't have an ASD, correct? You do know that she has admitted to this correct?

What kind of fucked up world do we live in Jonathan when the self diagnosed can call us Uncle Toms, cat food and recommend that we should be shot because we, as diagnosed autistic people disagree with a non-autistic person about what it is to be autistic. When can someone living in a $360,000 house with a swimming pool in Vandalia OH with children that never saw a special education classroom, never had an IEP, the mother of which claims to be autistic but never had a diagnosis, never went to special ed., never had one day in her LIFE that she was publicly identified by an employer as having a developmental disability, or suffered abuse on a short bus or in public for being autistic then claim that it is ok if she says we can be shot and cut up into catfood? That's, excuse me, fucked up.

Oliver M Canby said...

I also think it's bad to condescend autistic people, but some behaviors must be curbed, whether the person is autistic or not. While I try not to condescend autistic people and to be on their level, I also realize that I am higher functioning than the majority and I have different goals and abilities than they do. That being said, I don't believe my being high functioning prevents me from being an autistic advocate, and a pro-cure one ta boot. I speak not only from my own experiences (which have been Hell), but I can also rightly say that lower functioning people want a cure, as their parents would. I didn't just get a fake diagnosis online and portray it as a "civil rights issue," because that would've been a lie.

Spondi said...

One of my friends linked me to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiIeuuBrrw0

The author said...

I have many multiple identities, but they all resolve to the essential me, that is the way of it.

If it is latinate and verbose suspect it is me.

If it anglo saxon and direct also suspect it is me.

I really don't give a shit about the rantings on this blog, you are a run-a-gates, and I suspect you know it, we go back a way's together.

I have tried to make a difference in the world one way or another and it ain't easy, it often hurts.

I don't just have the autistic claim to "disability" I have painful physical impairments too. The trick is as Peter O Toole said in his impersonation of Lawrence of Arabia(who I was named after) not minding that it hurts.

If you can master that trick, then you will go a lot further.

I'm not self diagnosed, I was legitimately diagnosed within our NHS, and even Digby Tantam believes the dx considering it was he who trained the gal who dx'd me.

Ari is a young puppy for sure, but I reckon he is not without enough merit to show some old fogeys the way to do politics. I suppose you and I are both not old enough to remember Pitt the Younger :)

jonathan said...

I really don't give a shit about the rantings on this blog, you are a run-a-gates, and I suspect you know it, we go back a way's together.

No, you give at least three shits or more, considering how much time you spend commenting here. I know I am making an impact if I am honored by your august company here. Yes we go back more than ten years I reckon, and you responded to my rantings long before autism's gadfly existed, so yeah, you care.

I have tried to make a difference in the world one way or another and it ain't easy, it often hurts.

I have too and I have been hurt too, abused and libeled by the vicious hatemongers you and the rest of the ND afficianados keep company with.

The trick is as Peter O Toole said in his impersonation of Lawrence of Arabia(who I was named after) not minding that it hurts.

Even more germane, I remember what Nietzsche said about what does not kill makes me stronger. I also remember what Danish playwright Henrik Ibsen said in the enemy of the people that the strongest man in the world is the one who stands most alone.

I remember that well when I struggle with this horrific disability every day and try to deal with it and make an effort to better myself against all odds and adversity, as well as in my crusade as one of the few dissenters against the sea of neuroperversity blogs on the hub and the rest of the internet.

I'm not self diagnosed, I was legitimately diagnosed within our NHS, and even Digby Tantam believes the dx considering it was he who trained the gal who dx'd me.

Neither am I. We are the same age yet I was diagnosed in adolescence. In fact in the 1960s my mother inquired with my then psychoanalytic therapist during the Bettelheim era which some of your friends in ND are trying to bring back about the possibility of my having autism, which was nixed.

If I remember correctly you were not diagnosed (if at all) until you were in your 40s. I have to wonder if your disability was anywhere near as significant as mine, for if you had been nonverbal, tantruming severely autistic in 1958 your parents certainly would have sought medical treatment for you. Your Mum in spite of her arthritic condition would have inquired about autism in the 1960s, so this makes your level of impairment suspect.

Ari is a young puppy for sure, but I reckon he is not without enough merit to show some old fogeys the way to do politics

Yes, by making a fool out of himself at the IACC meeting where he suggested that an economist who showed the costs incurred with autism was suggesting eugenics and baby killing. You certainly have a great role model who is young enough to be your son.

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Roger Kulp said...

I haven't had a computer for over a week,so I'm just getting caught up on a lot of this stuff.

I find it very interesting that lies,fraud and deceit,which is what having multiple aliases,or identities really is,seems to be such big part of the lives of all these neurodiversity types.

A big part of autism,for many,is the innate inability to ever tell a lie,under any circumstances, something that has gotten me into a great deal of trouble more time than I care to count,and something you seem to be able to relate to too.

Given this,you do have to wonder about the diagnosis of some of these people,or is the ability to lie and deceive just another difference between "auties" and aspies.

I've been a little out of the loop,and haven't really followed this stuff for the last couple of years,I wasn't really aware ASAN,Wrong Planet,and the rest were still pushing self-diagnosis,like it was 2006 or something.

I don't know what it is about autism that attracts so many liars,and frauds,but these people are just the one side of the coin,the antivaxers are the other. Both are built up on lies and fraud.It's funny that many in the ND movement,who are so critical of the antivaxers for believing something documented to be proven wrong,would support self-diagnosed "autistics" with no proof of their condition.

A little food for thought.

mx said...

Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "autistic" in the 50s/60s/70s, even if we *were* non-verbal and tantruming. I got "psychotic" and "childhood schizophrenia", amongst other things (eventually diagnosed ASD at 13 or 14, after 10 years in the system).

Know others who were labelled mentally retarded, language disorder, emotionally disturbed, or some combination.

And know people who worked in a state institution in the 70s, where there was a ward for severely autistic children. Except a lot of them were officially diagnosed psychotic or schizophrenic or...

Kent A. said...

Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "autistic" in the 50s/60s/70s, even if we *were* non-verbal and tantruming. I got "psychotic" and "childhood schizophrenia", amongst other things (eventually diagnosed ASD at 13 or 14, after 10 years in the system).

Meg Evans claims an Ohio pediatrician in the 1960's was so up on the latest in psychiatry that he diagnosed her has having autism without any formal training in autism. Today she lives in a $300,000 home. She apparently discovered her autism while searching Google and following Star Trek links to Wrong Planet. Today, you can find Meg relaxing by her new swimming pool, a board member of ASAN and enjoying the good life while she berates diagnosed autistic people as too severe to represent her and her type of "autism".

http://foxfire74.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=10&pid=315#top_display_media

Hating Hoaxes said...

"three identities for female neurodiversity activist?"

Why stop at just three?

Afterall the would-be token LFA and self-appointed authority and "Benchmark of Autism" Amanda Baggs (in her forever "must be the most extreme in whatever story claimed" efforts)

once claimed to have over 80 personalities

Jan Houston said...

I just discovered your site. I was really shocked that someone would go to such links to be so hateful to others they disagree with. If this Meg person really has done this, she needs to be outed somehow. She has crossed a very serious line. My son is 10 and AS...yes, I want a "cure". I want to be able to talk to my son and get a real answer instead of a movie quote. I want my son to be able to open a book and sit still long enough to read it...this Meg person has no idea what autism is or how it affects the lives of every person with it...not to mention their parents, siblings and extended family. A "cure" for autism does not mean it will change the person's character or personality. It means they will be able to cope and succeed in this life. Why is that such a bad thing?

JSR said...

"There's no such thing as fiction..." Context does matter, or do you think that Vladimir Nabokov (writer of the classic novel Lolita) should have gone to jail for child rape?