tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post3252830796995324727..comments2024-03-14T18:26:18.208-07:00Comments on autism's gadfly: three identities for female neurodiversity activist?jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-90261086650568854372010-10-11T23:20:58.106-07:002010-10-11T23:20:58.106-07:00"There's no such thing as fiction..."..."There's no such thing as fiction..." Context does matter, or do you think that Vladimir Nabokov (writer of the classic novel Lolita) should have gone to jail for child rape?JSRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-46600492704597734042010-09-26T08:19:55.063-07:002010-09-26T08:19:55.063-07:00I just discovered your site. I was really shocked...I just discovered your site. I was really shocked that someone would go to such links to be so hateful to others they disagree with. If this Meg person really has done this, she needs to be outed somehow. She has crossed a very serious line. My son is 10 and AS...yes, I want a "cure". I want to be able to talk to my son and get a real answer instead of a movie quote. I want my son to be able to open a book and sit still long enough to read it...this Meg person has no idea what autism is or how it affects the lives of every person with it...not to mention their parents, siblings and extended family. A "cure" for autism does not mean it will change the person's character or personality. It means they will be able to cope and succeed in this life. Why is that such a bad thing?Jan Houstonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-58517254984470782452010-09-18T01:20:57.261-07:002010-09-18T01:20:57.261-07:00"three identities for female neurodiversity a..."three identities for female neurodiversity activist?"<br /><br />Why stop at just three?<br /><br />Afterall the would-be token LFA and self-appointed authority and "Benchmark of Autism" Amanda Baggs (in her forever "must be the most extreme in whatever story claimed" efforts) <br /><br /><i>once claimed to have over 80 personalities</i>Hating Hoaxesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-91482479689000694062010-09-06T14:14:40.629-07:002010-09-06T14:14:40.629-07:00Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "...Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "autistic" in the 50s/60s/70s, even if we *were* non-verbal and tantruming. I got "psychotic" and "childhood schizophrenia", amongst other things (eventually diagnosed ASD at 13 or 14, after 10 years in the system). <br /><br />Meg Evans claims an Ohio pediatrician in the 1960's was so up on the latest in psychiatry that he diagnosed her has having autism without any formal training in autism. Today she lives in a $300,000 home. She apparently discovered her autism while searching Google and following Star Trek links to Wrong Planet. Today, you can find Meg relaxing by her new swimming pool, a board member of ASAN and enjoying the good life while she berates diagnosed autistic people as too severe to represent her and her type of "autism".<br /><br />http://foxfire74.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=10&pid=315#top_display_mediaKent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-30592540777983380952010-09-05T00:27:54.016-07:002010-09-05T00:27:54.016-07:00Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "...Jonathon, an awful lot of us *not* diagnosed "autistic" in the 50s/60s/70s, even if we *were* non-verbal and tantruming. I got "psychotic" and "childhood schizophrenia", amongst other things (eventually diagnosed ASD at 13 or 14, after 10 years in the system). <br /><br />Know others who were labelled mentally retarded, language disorder, emotionally disturbed, or some combination.<br /><br />And know people who worked in a state institution in the 70s, where there was a ward for severely autistic children. Except a lot of them were officially diagnosed psychotic or schizophrenic or...mxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-3559154115100070512010-08-29T11:01:42.260-07:002010-08-29T11:01:42.260-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-30183569423543164132010-08-29T11:01:35.961-07:002010-08-29T11:01:35.961-07:00I really don't give a shit about the rantings ...<i>I really don't give a shit about the rantings on this blog, you are a run-a-gates, and I suspect you know it, we go back a way's together.</i><br /><br />No, you give at least three shits or more, considering how much time you spend commenting here. I know I am making an impact if I am honored by your august company here. Yes we go back more than ten years I reckon, and you responded to my rantings long before autism's gadfly existed, so yeah, you care. <br /><br /><i>I have tried to make a difference in the world one way or another and it ain't easy, it often hurts.</i><br /><br />I have too and I have been hurt too, abused and libeled by the vicious hatemongers you and the rest of the ND afficianados keep company with. <br /><br /><i>The trick is as Peter O Toole said in his impersonation of Lawrence of Arabia(who I was named after) not minding that it hurts.</i><br /><br />Even more germane, I remember what Nietzsche said about what does not kill makes me stronger. I also remember what Danish playwright Henrik Ibsen said in the enemy of the people that the strongest man in the world is the one who stands most alone. <br /><br />I remember that well when I struggle with this horrific disability every day and try to deal with it and make an effort to better myself against all odds and adversity, as well as in my crusade as one of the few dissenters against the sea of neuroperversity blogs on the hub and the rest of the internet. <br /><br /><i>I'm not self diagnosed, I was legitimately diagnosed within our NHS, and even Digby Tantam believes the dx considering it was he who trained the gal who dx'd me.</i><br /><br />Neither am I. We are the same age yet I was diagnosed in adolescence. In fact in the 1960s my mother inquired with my then psychoanalytic therapist during the Bettelheim era which some of your friends in ND are trying to bring back about the possibility of my having autism, which was nixed. <br /><br />If I remember correctly you were not diagnosed (if at all) until you were in your 40s. I have to wonder if your disability was anywhere near as significant as mine, for if you had been nonverbal, tantruming severely autistic in 1958 your parents certainly would have sought medical treatment for you. Your Mum in spite of her arthritic condition would have inquired about autism in the 1960s, so this makes your level of impairment suspect. <br /><br /><i>Ari is a young puppy for sure, but I reckon he is not without enough merit to show some old fogeys the way to do politics</i><br /><br />Yes, by making a fool out of himself at the IACC meeting where he suggested that an economist who showed the costs incurred with autism was suggesting eugenics and baby killing. You certainly have a great role model who is young enough to be your son.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-81444082161663443852010-08-29T10:18:54.869-07:002010-08-29T10:18:54.869-07:00I have many multiple identities, but they all reso...I have many multiple identities, but they all resolve to the essential me, that is the way of it.<br /><br />If it is latinate and verbose suspect it is me.<br /><br />If it anglo saxon and direct also suspect it is me.<br /><br />I really don't give a shit about the rantings on this blog, you are a run-a-gates, and I suspect you know it, we go back a way's together.<br /><br />I have tried to make a difference in the world one way or another and it ain't easy, it often hurts.<br /><br />I don't just have the autistic claim to "disability" I have painful physical impairments too. The trick is as Peter O Toole said in his impersonation of Lawrence of Arabia(who I was named after) not minding that it hurts.<br /><br />If you can master that trick, then you will go a lot further.<br /><br />I'm not self diagnosed, I was legitimately diagnosed within our NHS, and even Digby Tantam believes the dx considering it was he who trained the gal who dx'd me.<br /><br />Ari is a young puppy for sure, but I reckon he is not without enough merit to show some old fogeys the way to do politics. I suppose you and I are both not old enough to remember Pitt the Younger :)Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-4736349394752633472010-08-27T16:28:40.784-07:002010-08-27T16:28:40.784-07:00One of my friends linked me to this video.
http:/...One of my friends linked me to this video.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiIeuuBrrw0Spondinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-37020500800178094742010-08-27T15:59:50.776-07:002010-08-27T15:59:50.776-07:00I also think it's bad to condescend autistic p...I also think it's bad to condescend autistic people, but some behaviors must be curbed, whether the person is autistic or not. While I try not to condescend autistic people and to be on their level, I also realize that I am higher functioning than the majority and I have different goals and abilities than they do. That being said, I don't believe my being high functioning prevents me from being an autistic advocate, and a pro-cure one ta boot. I speak not only from my own experiences (which have been Hell), but I can also rightly say that lower functioning people want a cure, as their parents would. I didn't just get a fake diagnosis online and portray it as a "civil rights issue," because that would've been a lie.Oliver M Canbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933533725693723362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-46062183303452023712010-08-27T14:12:07.015-07:002010-08-27T14:12:07.015-07:00"You really should get over the"cat food..."You really should get over the"cat food" thing"<br /><br />Really? So a person that is not autistic, has no autistic children and otherwise never heard of autism until she started reading AFF and WP in 2005 is perfectly in her right, as a non autistic person to say that autistic people she doesn't like should be shot and turned into cat food? You do know she doesn't have an ASD, correct? You do know that she has admitted to this correct? <br /><br />What kind of fucked up world do we live in Jonathan when the self diagnosed can call us Uncle Toms, cat food and recommend that we should be shot because we, as diagnosed autistic people disagree with a non-autistic person about what it is to be autistic. When can someone living in a $360,000 house with a swimming pool in Vandalia OH with children that never saw a special education classroom, never had an IEP, the mother of which claims to be autistic but never had a diagnosis, never went to special ed., never had one day in her LIFE that she was publicly identified by an employer as having a developmental disability, or suffered abuse on a short bus or in public for being autistic then claim that it is ok if she says we can be shot and cut up into catfood? That's, excuse me, fucked up.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-31330516570179483862010-08-27T13:51:28.781-07:002010-08-27T13:51:28.781-07:00"You are acting as if having multiple identit..."You are acting as if having multiple identities is something unusual. A lot of internet users have more than one name. I have probably at least 5 identities floating around on the internet. I have no reason to be broadcasting all of them. It is not anyone's business unless they are people who are interested and I know they are not trolls."<br /><br />Given the fact you stated all of this, that tells me you're much higher functioning than the majority of us. It shows you're smart enough to know that there are autistic people who create separate accounts for dealing with "pen-pals", most of whom are lower functioning than you, yet you would state that there's no such term according to your ND logic for you wouldn't admit that the only reason one would say that is because it's the socially appropriate thing to say in front of disabled people. <br /><br />I want an autistic friend who's honest and acts like the way he/she normally would with other people- not someone who feels sorry for me and exaggerates himself/herself. Yes, people on the Internet may be phony, but when it comes to the autistic community, as long as you're careful dealing with the person on the other end and find the right point where you could trust him/her (i.e.- after ample evidence of photos of the person, viewing exchanges of information of each other on instant messenger/emails while moving "slowly" (i.e.- start by giving person first name only), occasional phonecalls after getting to know the person online for a while, observe the person's facebook profile and watch to see how he/she interacts with other users, etc.) it shouldn't be a big deal. I also dislike pen-pals<br />and message boards where all people do is post a question or quick topic where each person on the board gives brief answers; that's boring and childish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-16202278821109393902010-08-27T13:22:25.865-07:002010-08-27T13:22:25.865-07:00I found the whole post offensive. Not just the ca...I found the whole post offensive. Not just the cat food thing. It was offensive that she would use a word like Uncle Tom. Offensive that someone would say that people are trying to prevent others from fighting against descrimination in the workplace are doing so, in order to deliberately get a welfare check. If it was a joke it was in extremely poor taste. If it was meant as something to be taken seriously, then ABFH regardless of whether or not she is Meg Evans is someone who clearly does not understand the problems developmentally disabled people have. Either way the post was disgusting and I won't get over it, because it shows the maturity level of all those in ND yourself included.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-68386727444652738472010-08-27T12:01:34.096-07:002010-08-27T12:01:34.096-07:00I have always chosen to use my real name as I feel...I have always chosen to use my real name as I feel that truly represents me. I have no problem using pseudonyms, or even multiple pseudonyms, as long as they are not with the intent to deceive people, as this case clearly was. A similar example would be when Stephen King decided to write under the name of Richard Bachman, and it caused a furor when it was revealed that they were the same author. If you're gonna use a pseudonym, either just use one or if you use multiple of them, make no secret of the fact you are the same person. Deceptiveness is just wrong, and could be prosecuted as fraud. I started using my real name in order to be honest and show people who I really was. However, there was a downside as people were able to find out where I lived and sue me. I could've returned to Blogging under a pseudonym, but I felt that would've been deceptive as I'd already made a name for myself as Oliver M Canby. Therefore, I remained honest to who I truly was.Oliver M Canbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933533725693723362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-27905117904091460212010-08-27T09:48:48.144-07:002010-08-27T09:48:48.144-07:00given the fact she is rumored to have alteregos th...given the fact she is rumored to have alteregos that state she believes that persons with autism whom she does not happen to agree with should be taken out and shot or turned into cat food and strangled to death is worth publicly reporting on the internet. <br /><br />You failed to mention that she said this without any form of an ASD diagnosis. Also, neither of her children have an ASD. The fact she is saying these things as a non-autistic person is even more damaging.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-8153669971503011032010-08-27T09:46:35.156-07:002010-08-27T09:46:35.156-07:00Jonathan,
The author of the Chicago blog writes a...Jonathan,<br /><br />The author of the Chicago blog writes and implies that there is a child sexualization aspect of some of Ventura33/Meg's writings. The blogger wrote:<br /><br />No, the ratings associated with Bonnie Ventura’s stories, it was learned, were actually story codes. Upper case letters such as F are adult females 18 or older and M are adult males 18 or older. Lower case letters such as f (for female) or m (for male) are minors between the ages of 13 and 17 and lower case letters such as g (for girl) and b (for boy) are minors 12 years of age and younger. In cases where two same letters are found, the sexual activity is homosexual sexual activity. In other words, Bonnie Ventura writes and hosts stories on her website that involve adults and minors involved in sexual (the x in the code) activity. There’s a specific word for this sort of ‘creative writing.’<br /><br />My research has turned up something different. Here I believe are the codes this blogger are referring to: http://www.trekiverse.org/FAQs/CodingYourStoryProperly.html<br /><br />I wrote, and am waiting on moderation of the blog to accept the following which I wrote to them:<br /><br />If these are the codes you are referring to, then this does not indicate minors. The lower case f and the lower case m refer to the character Q and or other male or female characters not specified in other parts of the code. Hardly indicative of what you are implying here.<br /><br />http://www.trekiverse.org/FAQs/CodingYourStoryProperly.html<br /><br />Unless this blogger can produce the source links where these codes at the time of the story did indicate minor female and minor male, this allegation is false. The codes were changed in 2009 but the trekiverse website prevents robot .txt which the wayback machine uses to catalog the internet. I couldn't go back to see what the codes meant beforehand.<br /><br />I can say that I've researched this pretty thoroughly. The child porn allegations seem to me to be baseless. However, if she has the older Trekiverse codes captured to match the timeline of the Fuh-q Fest stories, then this could disprove what I just wrote. However, Chicago blog has been unresponsive.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-90037637772275940762010-08-27T09:02:00.296-07:002010-08-27T09:02:00.296-07:00You really should get over the"cat food"...You really should get over the"cat food" thing. Obviously it was not meant to be taken seriously, yet you continue to get offended by it. That shows how mature you are. The fact that she was posting controversial ideas actually did make it a wise choice to stay anonymous. It does not matter how high up she is on ASAN. She had numerous trolls that could even chase her down in person. It is dangerous to post your real name on the internet, and sometimes "bravery is dumb. maybe you should run away more." ice age 2Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559050484005593112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-46569738005158215872010-08-27T08:40:06.461-07:002010-08-27T08:40:06.461-07:00Chelsea, BTW, I have always used my real name on t...Chelsea, BTW, I have always used my real name on the internet, though it could adversely affect me in some way down the line. If people want credibility, they should use their real names in my opinion and not use alteregos or stage names to post controversial opinions. Anonymity is often an act of cowardice. <br /><br />The only exception in my case was when I used the moniker "NDjustsayno" on wrong planet. I think everyone who had heard of me knew it was me anyhow. I was banned from wrongplanet probably at least partially because I used that screen name there.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-15790370648376847932010-08-27T08:37:27.742-07:002010-08-27T08:37:27.742-07:00I will continue to search for these "stories&...I will continue to search for these "stories" allegedly made by Meg Evans. If I find them, I will report them to child protective services in Vandalia, OH and or Montgomery County OH. There is no such thing as "fiction" when it comes to potential child sexual abuse and thoughts and actions of adults. <br /><br />I have requested through personal email that Ms. Evans deny these allegations, but as of now she hasn't responded which is troubling. I have also requested Ari Ne'eman to investigate but I haven't heard back from him either. If they think this is going to go away, I can promise them it won't. I'll do a "man on the street" journalism in Ohio if I need to. I take child abuse very seriously. Especially on autistic people.<br /><br />If an adult is writing fantasies of child sexual domination, that's serious. It doesn't matter if its fiction. Research has shown that there is a thin line between fantasies and carrying out those fantasies and writing about them is a step closer in the chain to having actually carried out those fantasies.<br /><br />The author of the Chicago Blog is on notice too. She has the responsibility to produce those links she is alleging. It is a crime in her country (Canada) to have possession of written child pornography. If she is lying about this, that a serious libel to be making.<br /><br />I reserve judgment until I see the links. I've searched everywhere based on Ventura33 and I can't find it. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist at this moment and Meg Evans is being libeled. However, if true, then the public has a right to know of a potential danger.<br /><br />I have no doubt that Ms. Evans is the Ventura33 as she even refers to her fiction on her husband's site and gives a link to the webpage. Searching through the wayback machine you can find various sexual stories on the site that aren't there anymore. But fiction between adults isn't a big deal. But the site does not have pedophile type fiction. <br /><br />The Chicago Blog has the burden of proof, and thus far has refused to provide evidence, only an allegation which is weak sauce without proof. If it turns out not to be true, I'd support Meg Evans pursuit of libel. That doesn't change the fact that she has been astroturfing and carrying on with dishonest promotion of ASAN or what she said in regards to abusing autistic people with a diagnosis.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-25925612486549704472010-08-27T08:37:09.710-07:002010-08-27T08:37:09.710-07:00I will continue to search for these "stories&...I will continue to search for these "stories" allegedly made by Meg Evans. If I find them, I will report them to child protective services in Vandalia, OH and or Montgomery County OH. There is no such thing as "fiction" when it comes to potential child sexual abuse and thoughts and actions of adults. <br /><br />I have requested through personal email that Ms. Evans deny these allegations, but as of now she hasn't responded which is troubling. I have also requested Ari Ne'eman to investigate but I haven't heard back from him either. If they think this is going to go away, I can promise them it won't. I'll do a "man on the street" journalism in Ohio if I need to. I take child abuse very seriously. Especially on autistic people.<br /><br />If an adult is writing fantasies of child sexual domination, that's serious. It doesn't matter if its fiction. Research has shown that there is a thin line between fantasies and carrying out those fantasies and writing about them is a step closer in the chain to having actually carried out those fantasies.<br /><br />The author of the Chicago Blog is on notice too. She has the responsibility to produce those links she is alleging. It is a crime in her country (Canada) to have possession of written child pornography. If she is lying about this, that a serious libel to be making.<br /><br />I reserve judgment until I see the links. I've searched everywhere based on Ventura33 and I can't find it. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist at this moment and Meg Evans is being libeled. However, if true, then the public has a right to know of a potential danger.<br /><br />I have no doubt that Ms. Evans is the Ventura33 as she even refers to her fiction on her husband's site and gives a link to the webpage. Searching through the wayback machine you can find various sexual stories on the site that aren't there anymore. But fiction between adults isn't a big deal. But the site does not have pedophile type fiction. <br /><br />The Chicago Blog has the burden of proof, and thus far has refused to provide evidence, only an allegation which is weak sauce without proof. If it turns out not to be true, I'd support Meg Evans pursuit of libel. That doesn't change the fact that she has been astroturfing and carrying on with dishonest promotion of ASAN or what she said in regards to abusing autistic people with a diagnosis.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-74427251140969195212010-08-27T08:36:42.750-07:002010-08-27T08:36:42.750-07:00Chelsea: Given the fact that Meg Evans is high up ...Chelsea: Given the fact that Meg Evans is high up in ASAN and Ari Ne'eman, ASAN's president, has been appointed to two different posts in the Obama administration where he can help craft autism policy at taxpayer expense and given the fact she is rumored to have alteregos that state she believes that persons with autism whom she does not happen to agree with should be taken out and shot or turned into cat food and strangled to death is worth publicly reporting on the internet. <br /><br />This is of concern to me even if it is not of concern to you.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-91200321115165552622010-08-27T08:05:00.567-07:002010-08-27T08:05:00.567-07:00You are acting as if having multiple identities is...You are acting as if having multiple identities is something unusual. A lot of internet users have more than one name. I have probably at least 5 identities floating around on the internet. I have no reason to be broadcasting all of them. It is not anyone's business unless they are people who are interested and I know they are not trolls.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559050484005593112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-48978333206894527022010-08-27T04:28:51.285-07:002010-08-27T04:28:51.285-07:00Well, the Chicago blog has refused to give me the ...Well, the Chicago blog has refused to give me the links to the child sex stories. They claim its because I could be a minor and they have no way of verifying my age. I've offered to do a video chat and show my driver's license to them if my gray hair isn't sufficient.<br /><br />I've tried to find these stories but cannot. If these stories cannot be verified and the person making the allegations won't let others verify, then I think we have to ignore them. I think the burden of proof is on the author of that blog. I've verified all the other information save for that most serious of allegations.Kent A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-36511463206728368002010-08-26T14:27:27.281-07:002010-08-26T14:27:27.281-07:00Don't know where he was born.Don't know where he was born.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-91624965530806010912010-08-26T13:32:28.804-07:002010-08-26T13:32:28.804-07:00Was Ne'eman born in Israel?Was Ne'eman born in Israel?John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.com