tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post7662277046038524859..comments2024-03-14T18:26:18.208-07:00Comments on autism's gadfly: autrick or treatjonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-43270437563358484562010-07-03T23:00:22.544-07:002010-07-03T23:00:22.544-07:00Who honestly cares about Autreat? Anyone intereste...Who honestly cares about Autreat? Anyone interested in meeting a bunch of other autistic people could always seek them out elsewhere within their local area.<br /><br />Oh wait....I forgot! They can't initiate and maintain normal conversations with other people in person so their solution is simple to solve: Meet others who they believe are EXACTLY like themselves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-19020562682353701212010-07-03T11:29:31.633-07:002010-07-03T11:29:31.633-07:00"a video 'note from her mother' sayin..."a video 'note from her mother' saying so (with captioning!"<br /><br />This is in response to my challenge of Ms. Baggs on her blog and her mothers comments. Now that her mother has interjected herself, we shall see. I know for a fact she was not diagnosed as autistic at 14 because I have her logs from the internet.<br /><br />I understand how a parent wants to support their child, especially one with significant emotional and psychological challenges. However, what her mother is doing is enabling the disease.<br /><br />If you are truly something, whether it is autistic or Down Syndrome, an artist or whatever, you have comfort in knowing the truth. One does not feel the need to constantly "prove" who they are. I suspect that if I said Amanda wasn't born in California, she wouldn't feel the need to defend the fact she was born in California. She would just say, yay, I was born in California and it really doesn't matter what you think and that would be pretty much the end of it. However, when you are pretending to be something, and have your identity tied up in that something, and it is important for your well being and stability, you will defend it. Parents will often help their children in whatever it is as long as it helps their stability and happiness. However, we as parents, must not enable a disease in our children. The fact that comments have been disabled on this video of hers, speaks volumes about Amanda's ability to be self aware and of the importance to protect the emotions and feelings of others.<br /><br />I've noticed this pattern of Amanda's. When she is challenged, she is immature in her response. I challenged the authenticity of her mothers comments on her blog. Two weeks later, she posts a video. Shelley challenged her diagnosis 2 years ago. Within weeks she produced a diagnosis dated from 2005. This is the reaction attempts of someone desperate to prove they are who they say they are. If you are who you say you are, you don't care, especially so for autistic people.Kent Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-49914434793551540382010-07-03T02:28:24.022-07:002010-07-03T02:28:24.022-07:00well I guess now we can all really finally put the...well I guess now we can all really finally put the whole Amanda Baggs fiasco to rest because Amanda's got<br /><br />a video 'note from her mother' saying so (with captioning!) <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ISrTDmryI<br /><br />0.oAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-76346088319363570272010-07-01T12:20:00.622-07:002010-07-01T12:20:00.622-07:00Nobody should have to produce there papers (remind...Nobody should have to produce there papers (reminds me of the old war movies "ihre papiere bitte" when the POW was trying to escape.<br /><br />Onus probandi should be upon the accuser to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant is not guilty of autism m'lud.<br /><br />I have not seen enough evidence in either case.<br /><br />I do have a problem with Autreat, one I have expressed to Jim Sinclair directly, which is that he treats it effectively as a fiefdom. It' xyr right of course, being as xe does have legal proprietorship, but I do not believe it is either just, equitable or sustainable.<br /><br />I rest my case.<br /><br />BTW my blog is also a fiefdom, but one under scrutiny from powerful forces. I cannot reproduce anything there that has the slightest suggestion of libel else I will face disciplinary proceedings.Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-69091161908578142632010-06-30T16:58:34.992-07:002010-06-30T16:58:34.992-07:00Didn't the Elf get widespread support from the...Didn't the Elf get widespread support from the Gang when people demanded she produce her papers?<br /><br />Then why was such a demand made of Shelly, by Autreat?<br /><br />Is this the Type Specimen of hypocrisy?<br /><br />Autreat/ANI has become a clique with Jim, Ari and Amanda as its Trinity.Socrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525104555859213125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-46871689784581446492010-06-30T14:52:57.497-07:002010-06-30T14:52:57.497-07:00By the way Jonathan, Larry the Scared, shouldn'...By the way Jonathan, Larry the Scared, shouldn't be allowed to post comments on your blog if he isn't going to allow us, you and me, to post comments on his. Tit for Tat. Larry has rejected a few of my comments simply because he was uncomfortable addressing the questions I posed. I certainly never attacked him like he did you here.Kent Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-18017620816072342922010-06-30T14:49:33.174-07:002010-06-30T14:49:33.174-07:00"What is wrong with people of a like persuasi..."What is wrong with people of a like persuasion holding conferences for people of a like persuasion. "<br /><br />Nothing as long as they describe their event as people gathering to discuss things they all agree on. That's not what Autreat advertises, it advertises itself as autistic friendly with no disclaimer that its only autistic friendly for autistic people that think alike or that phony up like Ms. Baggs. Unless of course its a conference of minstrels who like to get together to ban real autistic people like Shelley, force her to produce papers, accept her application, then reject her last minute and then spread lies about her as some sort of violent person. Mr. Sinclair is a liar of the first order and I proved it on ABFH's blog when he could not argue his way out of his decision and blamed it on some sort of policy directive. No, Autreat is not for autistic people, its for people that like to visit echo chambers.Kent Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-1843223087361022682010-06-30T11:55:23.977-07:002010-06-30T11:55:23.977-07:00What is wrong with people of a like persuasion hol...<i>What is wrong with people of a like persuasion holding conferences for people of a like persuasion</i><br /><br />Gee guess there is nothing wrong with a Mafia Don convention or a KKK convention or American Nazi Party convention either. They are throwing a conference for and by people of like persuasion. <br /><br /><i>Anyway it is enough that the UK equivalent of Autism speaks is paying people like me effectively to speak against them at a conference they sponsored. Now that is progress.</i><br /><br />If Autism speaks is stupid enough to donate half a million bucks to Laurent Mottron, then I suppose the UK equivalent could be stupid enough to pay you to speak about neurodiversity and the social model of disability and the country of the blind analogy too.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-23443643640851372792010-06-30T11:50:15.290-07:002010-06-30T11:50:15.290-07:00First of all I would not consider Autreat as a &qu...First of all I would not consider Autreat as a "neurodiversity" conference, and I personally would have some misgivings about attending myself, not to do with the philosophy so much as the organisation.<br /><br />You all miss the point, which is "horses for courses"<br /><br />You wouldn't get a fan of Dogtanian and the three musketeers going to a star trek convention "(or would you?)<br /><br />What is wrong with people of a like persuasion holding conferences for people of a like persuasion. How many republicans expect not to be thrown out of a democratic convention? <br /><br />Anyway it is enough that the UK equivalent of Autism speaks is paying people like me effectively to speak against them at a conference they sponsored. Now that is progress.Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-21582187190247529112010-06-29T16:23:06.305-07:002010-06-29T16:23:06.305-07:00We "antivaxers" are the one and only one...We "antivaxers" are the one and only ones in the autism community advancing public health and medical science, not you, not the neurodiversity sideshow, nor Alison Singer's tobacco science foundation.Jake Crosbyhttp://www.ageofautism.com/jake-crosbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-39852762370483459722010-06-29T08:01:30.163-07:002010-06-29T08:01:30.163-07:00Mr Mitchell,
I apologised for leaving a comment h...Mr Mitchell,<br /><br />I apologised for leaving a comment here, but I cannot find an email address for you.<br /><br />If you are willing to provide an assurance that you will not generally censor comments and declare publicly when a comment has not been approved/deleted on the relevant post, we would remove the advisory graphic from your listing on the Autismo Hub.<br /><br />It would greatly enhance your credibility.Autismohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07713369757440767007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-30605576665582276562010-06-28T20:06:05.444-07:002010-06-28T20:06:05.444-07:00And as you know, Stephen Shore was at Autism One t...And as you know, Stephen Shore was at Autism One this year. I met him there.Jake Crosbyhttp://www.ageofautism.com/jake-crosbynoreply@blogger.com