tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post473791717555975547..comments2024-03-14T18:26:18.208-07:00Comments on autism's gadfly: Obama appoints Ari Ne'eman to National Council on disabilitiesjonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-29464204381992924192009-12-21T19:00:36.325-08:002009-12-21T19:00:36.325-08:00Jon, Roger and others, If I had any say in this I&...Jon, Roger and others, If I had any say in this I'd vote for someone from your end of the spectrum to compliment the ND end of things on any of those boards. But of course I have no say in that, any more than you do. Whatever else you may say about him Neeman does have the skills of a politician, or he has some politically savvy people in the background supplying the push. As many books as I've sold, I have essentially zero political clout. Your viewpoints seem so opposite much of the time, and you both have ideas that should be heard.John Robisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07407165016025447113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-48898541765382638152009-12-21T16:45:54.509-08:002009-12-21T16:45:54.509-08:00"If you look at the article now following my ..."If you look at the article now following my link, you will see Ari (or someone else from ASAN) edited it from the original and modified some of the language that was in the original article. However, there is no question that Ari has stated in the past that he does not believe autism is a disability."<br /><br />Why, I'm not surprised! Either Ari's got some balls to admit the truth, or he's lying about how he sees autism so he won't get impeached. <br /><br />How typical!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-10105746250428075882009-12-20T18:12:35.821-08:002009-12-20T18:12:35.821-08:00Anonymous, just curious, what paper are you a fact...Anonymous, just curious, what paper are you a fact checker for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-37268915123241282722009-12-20T09:16:16.903-08:002009-12-20T09:16:16.903-08:00Zioist Illuminati may be anti Zionist but they are...Zioist Illuminati may be anti Zionist but they are not anti-semetic.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-65568458225147569062009-12-20T07:32:44.133-08:002009-12-20T07:32:44.133-08:00Although I think the words "Zionist Illuminat...Although I think the words "Zionist Illuminati" are anti-Semitic, having Jewish roots and attending a Jewish-sponsored university myself, I do think Ari Ne'eman's mother's ties to the Israeli government are definitely indicative of nepotism. <br /><br />Not only has she served as translator for the former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, but also his successor Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, as well as the current Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak. No wonder Ari has all these connections to the White House!Jake Crosbyhttp://www.ageofautism.com/jake-crosbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-62720534043242191742009-12-19T19:45:33.819-08:002009-12-19T19:45:33.819-08:00Ender,
I don't suffer from any diminished ment...Ender,<br />I don't suffer from any diminished mental capacity like you do.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-5166653360257450952009-12-19T19:43:54.643-08:002009-12-19T19:43:54.643-08:00The expression "Zionist Illuminati" is n...The expression "Zionist Illuminati" is not the least bit anti-semetic.<br /><br />Jewish people are nice people. I can't think of one who intentionally abuses disabled children the way Ne'eman does. I'm certain a vast majprity of Jewish people would condemn every word he says. Only someone connected to the Illuminati could be as highly trained and devoid of morals to be so cruel to these severely disabled children.<br /><br />Zionism is pure evil and has nothing to do with decent, God fearing Jewish folks. I think the Jews would throw Ne'eman out if he stepped into a Synagohue.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-50684712124269069892009-12-19T18:45:57.985-08:002009-12-19T18:45:57.985-08:00I'm not the person who insulted your mother, a...I'm not the person who insulted your mother, and I had no idea your mother was insulted. I don't even know who your mother is and i wish her nothing but wellness. I am just a fact checker for a paper who was asked to research this and was horrified by the posting of "Zionist Illuminati" which I'm sorry to say, is Anti-Semitic. I can refer you to the Southern Poverty Links which show that term to be a slur against Israeli Americans. But if this blog doesn't consider it Anti-Semitic, that's your business and I'll be happy to submit that to the journalist, though I don't think this blog is big enough to be mentioned in the article, especially given how few people comment, so don't worry, this is off the record. Was just a bit shocked at what you were allowing. <br /><br />Thank you, you told me all I needed to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-79124653865587084612009-12-19T16:22:49.952-08:002009-12-19T16:22:49.952-08:00Anonymous: Other than John Best's "Zioni...Anonymous: Other than John Best's "Zionist Illuminati" remarks which may or may not be antisemetic I don't believe that I have allowed anti-semetic comments in this thread. I am Jewish. Ne'eman's religion or ethnic background never entered my criticism of him. <br /><br />His mother does run a hebrew translation service, apparently one of her clients was the prime minister of israel (at least one time) and stating this probably factual statement is not anti-semetic. It is relevant to the discussion as it shows possible nepotism in Ne'eman's appointments and media exposure rather than his own merit. <br /><br />I don't see hate or bigotry from my side. Only from the ND's who support Ne'eman one who harasses me constantly and insults my mother because he does not have the wit to argue any of the facts from me (you may be this person for all I know) another who says autistics who don't agree with her agenda should be lined up against the wall and shot or turned into cat food. These people have donated money to ASAN and they have not refused them. Not to mention all the other bigotry and hatemongering that ND and the autism hub perpetuate which is beyond the scope of this post or response. <br /><br />I don't have Ne'eman's connections to the whitehouse and other things, I don't have his exposure, so obviously even if I wanted the job I could not be appointed. I also have autism of a more severe magnitude than he does, so I don't have the ability to relate and be sociable that he does. <br /><br />This is aside from the fact that I suspect the national council on disabilities does nothing to help handicapped people and is probably a waste of taxpayer money, i hope that answers your questions.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-17006857894297721722009-12-19T16:09:42.384-08:002009-12-19T16:09:42.384-08:00I have to say, you allowing Anti-Semitic remarks a...I have to say, you allowing Anti-Semitic remarks about Ari is truly horrid. <br /><br />"There is Ne'eman's family,that has influential political connections all over the world.(Google his mother Rina.)" --Roger Kulp over the fact Ari is a military brat of two soldiers and through his mother's work, has met some leaders. <br /><br />"Ne'eman accomplished being born into the Zionist Illuminati." -John Best <br /><br />This is disgusting, Ne'eman's politics aren't being discussed, he's being bashed for being Jewish and Israeli. For someone who claims to be Jewish, allowing antisemitism on the blog that is moderated really is horrible. <br /><br /><br />Now, perhaps Ari is wrong. <br /><br />"So someone who has either worked or attempted to work and been fired or someone with mixed success such as myself is certainly more qualified than Ne'eman who has never attempted to work."<br /><br />So, why aren't you being sought out for these positions? You should put yourself out there and work in politics to counter him? Instead of negatively taking away his positions, compete against him. Truth is the best disinfectant, so why don't you work to have Obama appoint you, since you believe you're more qualified?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-47360249672692456492009-12-19T12:26:49.843-08:002009-12-19T12:26:49.843-08:00I see no evidence that ari has changed his views. ...I see no evidence that ari has changed his views. He is still opposed to a cure, he is still claiming that autistic people are just fine they way they are and that it is a myth that autism is a tragedy. <br /><br />My differences with Ari are political and no more.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-87475479195810993582009-12-19T10:58:28.968-08:002009-12-19T10:58:28.968-08:00So if someone does mature and change there views y...So if someone does mature and change there views you still dislike and dissaprove of them?<br /><br />It seems in your philosophy there is no hope for redemption once you have given them the "evil eye"<br /><br />For what it's worth, you accused me of seeking a confrontation with Temple Grandin for personal reasons, when my difference with her was over politics, your difference with Ari seems to run deeper than that.<br /><br />Don't side with the hate mongers who post here they are just using and abusing you.<br /><br />Some of what I read in them amounts to little more than anti semetismLarry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-47976485068292502542009-12-18T22:45:39.055-08:002009-12-18T22:45:39.055-08:00Harold, that does not surprise me. If you look at...Harold, that does not surprise me. If you look at the article now following my link, you will see Ari (or someone else from ASAN) edited it from the original and modified some of the language that was in the original article. However, there is no question that Ari has stated in the past that he does not believe autism is a disability. It is possible he has changed his perspective in a couple of years, but I doubt it. I wonder if his emails to the ND bloggers includes an explaination of how his views have changed and why. I would certainly like an explanation of how on one hand he could say autism is not a disability and now say it is. <br /><br />Other than changing his mind, an alternative explanation is because so many organizations he has to work with to pursue his agenda have the word "disability" in it, including now the national council of disabilities which he wants to serve on, he had to claim he believes autism is a disability in spite of his writing on the subject. <br /><br />This would seem typical of neurodiverse doublespeak that George Orwell wrote about.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-22292506459335841042009-12-18T22:45:10.932-08:002009-12-18T22:45:10.932-08:00Johnyboy, I have worked with asperger's people...Johnyboy, I have worked with asperger's people something you have never done. You have no knowledge about asperger's syndrome other then yourself having it. Though I am still trying to figure out what behaviors a 6 year old with an autism spectrum disorder would display, I would be willing to bet that I would fit most of them. Psycatrists don't like second hand diagnosises though.Enderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13936753464525224578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-19618985969452378942009-12-18T19:50:24.188-08:002009-12-18T19:50:24.188-08:00Apparently Ari Ne'eman is sending emails to Ne...Apparently Ari Ne'eman is sending emails to Neurodiversity bloggers saying he is and has recognized autism as a disability contrary to what he wrote on the ASAN site article you quoted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-63396471368439004012009-12-18T18:59:14.574-08:002009-12-18T18:59:14.574-08:00Ender,
I've known lots of people who would be ...Ender,<br />I've known lots of people who would be dx'd with Asperger's today. Forty or fifty years ago, they were just called weirdos. Being a little bit screwy does not mean you have Asperger's though. People who actually have Asperger's struggle mentally. They don't do well in school and their social ineptitude is a lot worse than what you queers are portraying it as.<br /><br />You aren't old enough to know anything, so shut up.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-72488036031109205952009-12-18T18:27:59.002-08:002009-12-18T18:27:59.002-08:00Hopefully one day there will be no "face"...<i>Hopefully one day there will be no "face" of autism because autism will have been cured.</i><br /><br />Amen Stephanie!jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-12901519366736612742009-12-18T18:06:24.390-08:002009-12-18T18:06:24.390-08:00Hopefully one day there will be no "face"...Hopefully one day there will be no "face" of autism because autism will have been cured.Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12540927559726674184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-30237063828275610412009-12-18T17:05:13.558-08:002009-12-18T17:05:13.558-08:00Well we have deemed that there needs to be a face ...Well we have deemed that there needs to be a face for disability in politics, and so far I believe its a deaf guy, we need something more then that I think. Now I would agree that Ari is probably a bit too young for this position, but would you have preferred say, John Elder Robinson or Temple Grandin to take it, probably not.<br /><br />To answer your second point, I forgot that you believe that nobody on the autism spectrum has ever had a brain injury. I will also assume that the fact that there was no such thing as an asperger's diagnosis in DSM-IV before my brain injury is irrelevant despite the fact that I was diagnosed with ADHD, ODD, and hyperlexia when I was in Kindergarten the year before (all of which have known to be comorbid with asperger's in quite a few cases. Yea, that just never happens. BTW Johnyboy, have you ever had to worry about Sam walking out into traffic.<br /><br />Oh and P.S. say I am not autistic and thats fine, but I have worked with maybe 100 aspies over the years (some of which were just like me when I was there age, some not so much, but hey thats what you get with a spectrum disorder)... I think I know something about them from an insiders perspective.Enderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13936753464525224578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-68607594297157037512009-12-18T16:39:49.813-08:002009-12-18T16:39:49.813-08:00Droopy should be the "face of autism", a...Droopy should be the "face of autism", a true autistic person who is banned from conferences by Amanda Baggs and her cohorts.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-20432764087650370732009-12-18T16:19:23.829-08:002009-12-18T16:19:23.829-08:00Ender: First of all, there does not have to be a ...Ender: First of all, there does not have to be a "face of autism". Assuming they have these government appointees at all, another argument alltogether, they should get someone who is qualified to talk about work-related issues, the bane of persons with disabilities oftentimes. So someone who has either worked or attempted to work and been fired or someone with mixed success such as myself is certainly more qualified than Ne'eman who has never attempted to work. The person should also represent the mainstream, as the vast majority of persons involved with autism wish a cure. They don't have to be an autistic person. No autistic person really comes to mind. Now that the CAA has been passed curation and prevention are the position of the federal goverment and people appointed to positions within the government should have this mindset. <br /><br />Secondly, your views of autism are irrelevant as we have established before numerous times, you don't have a legitimate ASD diagnosis of any sort and your true diagnosis is traumatic brain injury and you are nothing but a self diagnosed aspie wannabe who knows nothing about autism from an insider's perspective.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-89557858207405234792009-12-18T13:41:45.213-08:002009-12-18T13:41:45.213-08:00Who do you propose should be the face of autism wi...Who do you propose should be the face of autism with the government. You certainly don't represent my beliefs at all. That is the problem here, any reasonable face is hated by 60% of the others.Enderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13936753464525224578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-2637834793199326032009-12-18T10:52:16.564-08:002009-12-18T10:52:16.564-08:00Like a friend of mine told me this morning, "...Like a friend of mine told me this morning, "Perhaps I should put on my resume that I'm a high school drop-out." That way I'll likely get appointed or hired for a job compared to someone who holds a college degree since people will feel sorry for me, and I'll be given a second chance (a third chance is a charm).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-26346553586342849152009-12-18T03:38:18.839-08:002009-12-18T03:38:18.839-08:00She was the translator of Ariel Sharon, former Isr...She was the translator of Ariel Sharon, former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister.Jake Crosbyhttp://www.ageofautism.com/jake-crosbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-55725237111041452022009-12-17T19:11:04.426-08:002009-12-17T19:11:04.426-08:00Rina Ne'eman used to be the translator for the...Rina Ne'eman used to be the translator for the Prime Minister of Israel. You don't get that job unless you're part of the team before they hire you.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.com