tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post3638976943511665301..comments2024-03-14T18:26:18.208-07:00Comments on autism's gadfly: lack of social relationships may shorten autistic's life expectancyjonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-44734532275812878302013-03-20T07:43:47.183-07:002013-03-20T07:43:47.183-07:00"...I would be interested in studying the que..."...I would be interested in studying the question of whether an autistic person's lack of social relations would cause a shortening of their life expectancy or possibly increase the risk of other concomitant health problems such as stroke, heart attacks, etc..."<br /><br />Some social relations are better than loneliness. Some other ones are *worse*.<br /><br />Has anyone studied the effects of autistic husbands on wives' life expectancies?<br /><br />Even if marriage lengthens an autistic man's life expectancy, does it lengthen his wife's life expectancy - or shorten hers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-48190417821381618492010-08-02T16:25:06.103-07:002010-08-02T16:25:06.103-07:00Please apply your analysis to these two scenarios:...Please apply your analysis to these two scenarios:<br /><br /><b>one</b><br />Ollie: I think pot smokers should be hung.<br />Socrates: Lighten up, dude.<br /><br /><b>two</b><br />Ollie: I think pot smokers should be hung<br />Girl: Lighten up, dude.Socrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525104555859213125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-5509852475232357672010-08-02T13:32:11.747-07:002010-08-02T13:32:11.747-07:00"Oliver, you crack me up. If you can rant for..."Oliver, you crack me up. If you can rant for hours on the net with me, Phil and other Strange Brews, you can do the same with girls."<br /><br />That's equivalent to saying if you can perform in theater, you can socialize with people. Those are TWO DIFFERENT SKILLS and the ones who perform well in theater who ARE on the 'spectrum' are the ones who do not have significant cognitive impairments, typically weren't late talkers, and typically perform in the CORNIEST plays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-70425099471166022882010-07-28T23:27:34.115-07:002010-07-28T23:27:34.115-07:00Just ignore him, Oliver. Socrates is usually drun...Just ignore him, Oliver. Socrates is usually drunk when he writes these posts.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-12728355510489020492010-07-28T21:54:07.771-07:002010-07-28T21:54:07.771-07:00Socrates, what the Hell are you talking about?Socrates, what the Hell are you talking about?Oliver M Canbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933533725693723362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-73369038945102322452010-07-28T16:41:39.566-07:002010-07-28T16:41:39.566-07:00Oh Dear Socrates,
I have no mummy or daddy but I ...Oh Dear Socrates,<br /><br />I have no mummy or daddy but I do have cider :)Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-24091708430920601172010-07-28T16:36:28.972-07:002010-07-28T16:36:28.972-07:00Hi Kent, I reckon he'd have some anxiety if I ...Hi Kent, I reckon he'd have some anxiety if I were in his audience, everybody has :)Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-14068042119788187262010-07-28T16:35:22.169-07:002010-07-28T16:35:22.169-07:00A tontine is a sort of life insurance scheme where...A tontine is a sort of life insurance scheme where a number of people pay in and the last one standing claims.<br /><br />So I'll be seeing you the other side of the end of Mayan long count perhaps :)Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-72659571685680852982010-07-28T16:28:00.776-07:002010-07-28T16:28:00.776-07:00So, umm... it's mild Dyspraxia and a rich momm...So, umm... it's mild Dyspraxia and a rich mommy.Socrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525104555859213125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-79721104674385798752010-07-28T15:02:43.325-07:002010-07-28T15:02:43.325-07:00Ari has social anxiety and a rich mummy.
I'm...Ari has social anxiety and a rich mummy.<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure that's true. I spent several hours with him surrounded by strangers, even some that were hostile to his message, but all I saw was someone that had no anxiety whatsoever. In fact, I think in this environment he had extraordinary social skills and dealt calmly and with great skill, far better than a typical person. Other than some awkward body language, mainly he was a bit stiff, there was no sign of what we think is atypical of the general population.Kent Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-1886626154264148172010-07-28T14:22:25.128-07:002010-07-28T14:22:25.128-07:00"...Of course the ND solution is acceptance. ..."...Of course the ND solution is acceptance. If only society would accept autistic people no matter how they behave, then they would have friends and lovers..."<br /><br />Yeah, I bet that's their answer to this situation too (for example, "he asked her to have sex with him and she said no!!! loneliness shortening his lifespan is that bitch's fault, not his autism's fault!!!").<br /><br />"...Of course this is certainly not realistic and it is never going to happen..."<br /><br />Sadly, except in communities where children are discouraged from playing with other children outside their extended families, younger adults are discouraged from dating instead of settling for the marriages their elders arrange, and older adults are discouraged from hiring outside their extended families. Some subcultures really do have these customs, and some of these even still enforce them!<br /><br />People born into this situation who don't have social skills (or just think they're too good to use the social skills they do have) can still play with other children, can still have sex by getting married off (even if one's spouse still refuses to have marital sex, one has a better chance of still having sex with her or him against her or his will and getting away with that rape), can still get and keep jobs, and can still hold the power of hiring and firing over other people this way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-27532663716580323352010-07-28T13:54:33.095-07:002010-07-28T13:54:33.095-07:00It's a thing where you get together and form a...It's a thing where you get together and form an Institute.<br /><br />Oliver, you crack me up. If you can rant for hours on the net with me, Phil and other Strange Brews, you can do the same with girls.<br /><br />Get the prelims out the way so when you meet you don't have to do the small talk thing.<br /><br />But can the I love Reagan bit unless you're at a young Republicans' convention.Socrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525104555859213125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-81227082999737543872010-07-28T13:37:20.046-07:002010-07-28T13:37:20.046-07:00Author: I am 54, going to be 55 in about a month ...Author: I am 54, going to be 55 in about a month and a half. I think we are approximately the same age. I am not sure what a tontine is.jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972394536850151087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-74245922076199534152010-07-28T13:20:29.222-07:002010-07-28T13:20:29.222-07:00Well me old pal me old beauty, it depends a lot on...Well me old pal me old beauty, it depends a lot on what you mean by social relationships, I have not spent my life seeking them out, yet (and I am sorry if it pains you) there are people in my locality who enjoy my company and miss me when I get reclusive as I mostly am.<br /><br />I guess there are lots of things to shorten my life that I read about. Alcohol consumption for one, and then chronic lack of sleep, to read some of these reports, it's a wonder I am still alive at all.<br /><br />I think there are other factors that will determine how long I have left. Some of them outside of my control and to do with economics and politics more than anything else.<br /><br />Can't remember how old you are, shall we enter into a tontine?Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-3308053918500220342010-07-28T12:26:54.320-07:002010-07-28T12:26:54.320-07:00You know Jonathan, Chris Mulligan thinks this too....You know Jonathan, Chris Mulligan thinks this too. That's why he has a program for young adults, ages 23 to 33, which is specifically designed for finding a long-term partner.Oliver M Canbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933533725693723362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353442983052145851.post-86157813956318859972010-07-28T11:53:34.664-07:002010-07-28T11:53:34.664-07:00Doh, get up to speed, dude:
What about suicides?
...Doh, get up to speed, dude:<br /><br />What about suicides?<br />Drug and Alcohol deaths?<br /><br /><br />It's nothing new people with learning disabilities have reduced lifespans.<br /><br />Ari has social anxiety and a rich mummy.<br /><br />I have Autism.Socrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525104555859213125noreply@blogger.com